21 August 2013 @ 10:58 am
I can do this, I can do this...  
I figured I owed you guys an update since I'm seemingly off in lala-land and taking ridiculous amounts of time to post a new chapter.

I don't know, I've been getting frustrated with what I have to write and putting it off. I figure people like writers more when they present their work without seeming super involved on an emotional level with the material, or else it looks like they think it's big shit or something, but... well hey, I do have feelings! These have been my characters for eight years, even if for the first two they were back-burner'd cardboard cut-outs, and for the next two I didn't know them very well. I already wrote about going to the dock and crying about letting them down, so it's too late to act on LJ like I don't care.

Anyway, I'm just frustrated for "Erik". It makes me a little sad that I have to do this to him, especially knowing I end the story with major possibilities in the future, and for Erik it will be a whole new chapter of his life, which I don't know if whether it will damage him even more or help him wake himself up. I'll have to just be that vague for now. Of course I feel badly for Lily, too, who will never be able to think about guys or about Phantom the same way ever again, and disappointed for Westin who has to be a strange friend-type person to her, in limbo for as long as he can handle, and I don't even know where he's going to college after this. I already quite like Westin, and it ain't his fault he got teh crushez on a girl with this many problems. I'm not worried about Mariam or Paulina.

But "Erik"? It'll just pain me to break him down after going with him on this journey almost as thoroughly as I've gone on it with Lily, and keeping him tightly wound, the way he wants to be. In control, the way he wants to be. Enjoying an illusion of love, the only thing he wants.

I was thinking about how I'd have to do a better job coaxing Lily to be attracted to him in the rewrite given how disturbing he looks to most people, but he would only have so many things to say about that. "I might seem scary, but she has all the power here. She has the power to hurt me, to make me desperate, to undo all my work."

Is it me, or Lily?

It's not really right to feel so badly for him, though. So much of this was his fault, too. Not all of it. I read an FF.net review that suspected "Erik" had a tragic past. Well? Under friends cut for you fine people? I can say this: no, it isn't tragic. It's not what anyone would want to experience, but tragic is a very inappropriate word, one he would only use himself with a serious bias. He wasn't abused or anything. Him and his father have very strong personalities and butted heads so much they now have to have a relationship of distant diplomacy, but their interactions still have a taste of malice because they've both done mean things to each other. He scared his mother to the point where she didn't feel save living in the same house because he was violent and refused/refuses to take medications, even if the effects of his schizophrenia by themselves are (luckily) still mild. He didn't have good friends, but he never bothered to make new ones, and his behavior in general has been very successful at repelling people.

And yeah, it was never Lily's responsibility to make him happy, and he forced and manipulated her into the position. I understand that he's desperate now, practically dead inside without her, but it still isn't his right, and he knows that. So I have to write him going so far over the line that it's just rather uncomfortable.

So... CH50 has about 5 pages right now, and I have a little bit of material written for CH51. I'm all over the place in my head; bouncing off walls; thinking of specific situations but knowing I will have to go on a feelz-overload in order to write them convincingly. Sometimes you just aren't ready to get in their heads. Perhaps not all authors do this, but I feel like I'm method acting when I write. I have to be everybody, and because of that I have been to some dark places in my head.

Well, take care, everybody, and I'll keep trying.

♥,
J
 
 
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[identity profile] savoreachsense.livejournal.com on August 29th, 2013 12:54 am (UTC)
Regarding your emotional investment in your characters - something I've observed is that writers who aren't emotionally invested in their characters have a lack of depth and passion in their work. The characters and storyline can be brilliant, but without that spark of emotion and care they never come to life. I think this is why a lot of fan fics (and stories in general) are never completed - the writer loses interest, or their muse, and the creativity just fizzles out from lack of sustenance.

The amount of energy that you've put into Lily and Erik is remarkable - especially Erik in my opinion, because it sounds like you've gone past your comfort zone in how you've written him. I want to feel sorry for him too, I truly do - but if I look at the sum of the parts of Erik's personality and actions, there is no way I can ethically feel sorry for him.

I like to think that a lot of people don't need to reach a breaking point before the proverbial wake up call from rock bottom, but for someone like Erik it's necessary. The cycle of his behaviors and actions has to be broken so that he can have a fresh start. It sucks to know that you can't soften the fall in a case such as his, because if you were to do so it wouldn't be as effective.

Ha. I feel like I'm talking about a real person here. Is that a bit nutty?

Something I thought of when you mention method acting and going to dark places is Heath Ledger's portrayal of the Joker in The Dark Knight Rises. For a month before the film went into production, he locked himself in a hotel room and researched the character. There is some pretty dark and scary material written and illustrated about the Joker, and you never really get a solid idea about who he is and what made him into the person he is in the present. He had to go to some really dark and fucked up places to relate to the character - and he admitted that there was some material that he just couldn't bring himself to read. Regardless, what he did research made his performance absolutely amazing. And I'm not even a fan of the Batman franchise.

Long story short, you're doing it right.
[identity profile] ladybows-fs.livejournal.com on August 31st, 2013 03:47 am (UTC)
Wow, that's... I'm not even sure how to take the compliment, and certainly not in a position to agree with it, but I'm so flattered that you would make that type of comparison. I found the Joker really compelling and I still miss Heath and wonder what he would have been doing by now. But.. yeah, I really don't even know what to say!

Anyway, I always feel like I'm talking about a real person concerning Erik, and in the course of writing HT I've had conversations with friends who weren't super familiar with my writing but who found themselves curious about him. I know why he seems real to me, though. He's a part of me, just a reeeeally ugly part that went wrong because he had no sense of balance the way I do.

Thanks a lot for leaving some comments. They were really a joy to read!
[identity profile] savoreachsense.livejournal.com on August 31st, 2013 06:08 am (UTC)
I was kind of worried that my comment would seem a bit over the top - I mean seriously, Heath got a posthumous award for that performance - but then I was like, hmm... What would censoring myself do, aside from frustrating me from trying to find the right words? Lol. We totally lost an amazing actor when he passed away.

And about the comments - no problem, I think writers don't get enough of them. And a bulk of them seem to be "omg plz update like now! I love your story!" Still a compliment, don't get me wrong - just a bit lacking in depth and feedback, which is always very useful and validating!

I think it's fascinating and totally cool that you've taken a part of yourself and put it into a character. I'm a fan of darker stories, so... yeah! Bravo.

Ah, such things take me back to my college days and creative writing classes, where I totally freaked some people out with my darker writings. Ha.

Sincerely,

Not a stalkerish reader! ;-)
[identity profile] ladybows-fs.livejournal.com on September 5th, 2013 01:58 am (UTC)
Every praise is pretty much over the top in my head. I always fall into disbelief and curl up in the fetal position when anyone says something super nice because I'll always have a complex that my work is below the bar. Someone would ask me, then, why I don't discontinue writing, but what's in my imagination is really good, at least to me -- but I know all anyone else can see is the actual words I type, and I don't think I have any way with words. I just *try* to tell the story with grace. But I've heard Lily's narration is flowery before. ;)

Forgive me if I ever told you this, but Erik comes from me and from someone else who I've taken a lot of life experiences from (namely schizophrenia, family issues, being sporadically homeless), although Friend has also been to juvi and prison for minor crimes... Anyway, I used to think they had different personalities, but Friend never been easy to figure out, and I was a bit floored when we once had a discussion about Erik and he told me he sounded like him a couple years prior, to the T. I should write an entry about it because it was one of the most amazing encouragements I'd ever heard. We rarely can make sense of each other but when I described Erik in terms of his thought processes, influences, motivations, desires, setbacks, etc etc etc., he got totally absorbed in listening and told me he could imagine him being real, too. He interprets me like a typical girl who can't get into the heads of guys, and this time he had to admit defeat. It was sfkj;wkfkwjferamazing.

I understand that I'm not entirely justified in being mad that some people don't want to leave reviews with any depth -- after all, I was posting on fanfiction.net -- but I did get really frustrated when I was making it clear I NEEDED useful feedback and that I wouldn't even post until I got it, yet everyone just waited for someone else to do it. Even when it was clear no one had stepped up to the plate, everyone just accepted it and moved on, like "oh I guess I don't need to read this story anymore if I have to lift a finger." I was really kind of surprised about that. So in the end, aside to thoughtful readers who actually have a brain in their heads, like you, and who followed me to a better platform, FF.net can suck my balls. :D

~J